Posts by James Jack

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My Bible Study Is Wide Awake To The TTATT

by James Jack in

i ran into my old bible study at the kingdom hall recently, he was baptized as a jw 8 years ago.

we started talking about small things and catching up about our families and then the bombshell.. "my wife and i are deeply troubled by the watchtower change of doctrine, prophecy, and their history"!

"did you know about charles russell and his failed marriage... his view of pyramids... generation mistakes... and dates... that place in california for returning prophets..."and on and on he went.. i told him i knew all about it and then show him a publication on display in the foyer (i think it is divine plan of the ages), and it had a fold out of a pyramid and a description on bible verses that showed 1914 was the year the big a was going to happen.

James Jack

He wanted to meet with 2 Elders to discussed his situation, I told him I know these guys, it will not go well with you.

I said, " you got 7 children at home, they need some Spiritual guidance at this point in their life. Nobody has the complete truth that I am aware of. You and I have too much invested with this Organization, also family to throw it all away. But we are empowered with information to make sound decisions. Just lay low, enjoy life, we have each other, our families! You can call me anytime to talk."

This is all that has happened at this time. We haven't talk since then.

I will keep everyone updated.

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My Bible Study Is Wide Awake To The TTATT

by James Jack in

i ran into my old bible study at the kingdom hall recently, he was baptized as a jw 8 years ago.

we started talking about small things and catching up about our families and then the bombshell.. "my wife and i are deeply troubled by the watchtower change of doctrine, prophecy, and their history"!

"did you know about charles russell and his failed marriage... his view of pyramids... generation mistakes... and dates... that place in california for returning prophets..."and on and on he went.. i told him i knew all about it and then show him a publication on display in the foyer (i think it is divine plan of the ages), and it had a fold out of a pyramid and a description on bible verses that showed 1914 was the year the big a was going to happen.

James Jack

I ran into my old Bible Study at the Kingdom Hall recently, he was Baptized as a JW 8 years ago. We started talking about small things and catching up about our families and then the bombshell.

"My wife and I are deeply troubled by the Watchtower change of Doctrine, Prophecy, and their History"! "Did you know about Charles Russell and his failed marriage... his view of Pyramids... Generation mistakes... and Dates... that place in California for returning Prophets..."and on and on he went.

I told him I knew all about it and then show him a publication on display in the foyer (I think it is Divine Plan of the Ages), and it had a fold out of a Pyramid and a description on bible verses that showed 1914 was the year the big A was going to happen. He asked me how I deal with it. More to come...

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g81 3/22 - The Electric Church

by Anders Andersen in

from awake!

1981, 3/22:the electric church turns onthe preacher wears no black robes.

instead, he glistens in a three-piece white polyester suit.

James Jack

I used to include this info in a Public Talk. The article is "Dated" according WTS guidelines.

Thanks Barbara for the memories!

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Question: HQ sold for $700 million, will this be announce on the JW site?

by goingthruthemotions in

so i can't stomach going to the jw site, much less spell the site completely.

but, here is my question....do you think they will announce on the site that they sold the brooklyn building for $700 million?

my bet is no!.

James Jack

They might, but the Dollar amount will not be listed. "Keep Those Donations Coming"!

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The real reason so many witnesses end up here....

by stuckinarut2 in

why do so many witnesses end up coming to forums like this?.

no doubt it is because of the fact that the society disallows any form of sincere questioning of teachings or doctrines or history etc.... if there was open discussion allowed - free of repercussions and punishment, then no one would feel stifled.

if genuine concerns could be raised, then no one would feel smothered or unable to share thoughts... then in turn many would not leave.... but due to the high control, authoritarian culture the society has created, many feel trapped, and end up searching outside of official channels...and leaving the society.....

James Jack

Ditto everyone!

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Another Newbie

by Drifting Away in

jw
friends

hello, i have been lurking for a while, but discovered ttatt for about 8 months now.

i am trying to fade out, problem is i have a big family i would lose if i got df'ed or da,'ed myself.

my wife knows how i feel, and is not thrilled but i cant hide my feelings.

James Jack

Have any positions with the Organization?

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Former DO comments on Overlapping Generations

by James Jack in

brother richard (dick) morlan, a former co & do for many years, now lives in gadsden alabama, usa.

he is 77 years old.

i saw him at a recent assembly in dekalb county alabama and ask him about the prospects of him dying in this "system of things".. his reply was, "i am going to make it till armageddon, but if i should die before then, then the governing body is going to have to add another overlapping generation to another overlapping generations"!.

James Jack

I think eventually the Organization will differentiate 1914 from the Last Days to make another adjustment to the Generation teaching.

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Former DO comments on Overlapping Generations

by James Jack in

brother richard (dick) morlan, a former co & do for many years, now lives in gadsden alabama, usa.

he is 77 years old.

i saw him at a recent assembly in dekalb county alabama and ask him about the prospects of him dying in this "system of things".. his reply was, "i am going to make it till armageddon, but if i should die before then, then the governing body is going to have to add another overlapping generation to another overlapping generations"!.

James Jack

Magnum

Morlan is borderline on the genius/crazy stage when it comes to his humor. You have to listen to his every word, and sometimes you have to pause and say to yourself... what did he say? One time to told us a a Pioneer Meeting, he told us his best job was working on a Garbage Truck because he was able to "bring home good furniture, bicycles, etc.

I believe he was serious about adding another generation to the teaching. Almost like he would be pissed about it if they did.

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Former DO comments on Overlapping Generations

by James Jack in

brother richard (dick) morlan, a former co & do for many years, now lives in gadsden alabama, usa.

he is 77 years old.

i saw him at a recent assembly in dekalb county alabama and ask him about the prospects of him dying in this "system of things".. his reply was, "i am going to make it till armageddon, but if i should die before then, then the governing body is going to have to add another overlapping generation to another overlapping generations"!.

James Jack

Ignoranceisbliss

What's wrong with you? I give names and real stories. Would giving phone numbers and addresses make my experiences more credible?

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Former DO comments on Overlapping Generations

by James Jack in

brother richard (dick) morlan, a former co & do for many years, now lives in gadsden alabama, usa.

he is 77 years old.

i saw him at a recent assembly in dekalb county alabama and ask him about the prospects of him dying in this "system of things".. his reply was, "i am going to make it till armageddon, but if i should die before then, then the governing body is going to have to add another overlapping generation to another overlapping generations"!.

James Jack

blondie

Yes, was in Gadsden that Ray Franz was DF in. In a earlier post I mentioned that for years I had worked closely with 2 members of the Judicial Committee, (Dibble & French), on the Circuit and District, RBC level.

Richard Morlan is attending the same congregation(East), that all the parties attended. In fact, the house he is living in is a Cousin of Gregerson.

The CO/DO in the 80's that had moved to Gadsden to live and direct the JC was Willie Anderson. Willie, passed away about 15 years ago, his wife is still but, moved to Atlanta to be with their daughter 3 years ago. And boy did she have some stories to tell about the whole thing.